Comments on: xkcd explores patriarchy in hollywood http://www.firepile.com/robin/?p=313 the einstein intersection Sun, 16 May 2010 21:09:48 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: firepile http://www.firepile.com/robin/?p=313&cpage=1#comment-17278 firepile Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:25:11 +0000 http://www.firepile.com/robin/?p=313#comment-17278 I was getting worried - all our discussion doesn't count until it's validated by the male perspective! Especially on the internet!! Thank goodness the Cabal is here! :) Butt. I was getting worried – all our discussion doesn’t count until it’s validated by the male perspective! Especially on the internet!! Thank goodness the Cabal is here! :)

Butt.

]]> By: Randall http://www.firepile.com/robin/?p=313&cpage=1#comment-17277 Randall Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:20:29 +0000 http://www.firepile.com/robin/?p=313#comment-17277 It has come to our attention that this thread has exceeded its allotted female perspective. Please <strike>wait passively</strike> <i>hold</i> while the men <strike>begin shouting</strike> prepare a rebuttal. Ha! Re. <i>Butt.</i> Al. Ha! -The Cabal It has come to our attention that this thread has exceeded its allotted female perspective. Please wait passively hold while the men begin shouting prepare a rebuttal. Ha! Re. Butt. Al. Ha!

-The Cabal

]]> By: TChem http://www.firepile.com/robin/?p=313&cpage=1#comment-17248 TChem Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:54:27 +0000 http://www.firepile.com/robin/?p=313#comment-17248 Yeah, the constant shock gets old. I'm never even the only female in the room when it happens. Yeah, the constant shock gets old. I’m never even the only female in the room when it happens.

]]> By: firepile http://www.firepile.com/robin/?p=313&cpage=1#comment-17221 firepile Tue, 22 Apr 2008 04:54:36 +0000 http://www.firepile.com/robin/?p=313#comment-17221 Yeah, the idea of being the "exception that proves the rule" was meant sarcastically - I know I have a skewed sample set, but I really think more girls are like us than not! Yeah, the idea of being the “exception that proves the rule” was meant sarcastically – I know I have a skewed sample set, but I really think more girls are like us than not!

]]> By: AnneC http://www.firepile.com/robin/?p=313&cpage=1#comment-17220 AnneC Tue, 22 Apr 2008 04:51:40 +0000 http://www.firepile.com/robin/?p=313#comment-17220 "Typical" girls? I'm pretty sure they live on MySpace, or something. “Typical” girls? I’m pretty sure they live on MySpace, or something.

]]> By: firepile http://www.firepile.com/robin/?p=313&cpage=1#comment-17217 firepile Tue, 22 Apr 2008 04:21:13 +0000 http://www.firepile.com/robin/?p=313#comment-17217 Most of the girls that I know are VERY MUCH like me - I just don't know where all of these "typical" girls are supposed to be! Most of the girls that I know are VERY MUCH like me – I just don’t know where all of these “typical” girls are supposed to be!

]]> By: AnneC http://www.firepile.com/robin/?p=313&cpage=1#comment-17213 AnneC Tue, 22 Apr 2008 03:56:53 +0000 http://www.firepile.com/robin/?p=313#comment-17213 Funny you should mention the "exception" thing. Of all the other females I tend to associate with, most are geeks. And basically ALL of us have been told a zillion times how "rare" we are and what "exceptions" we are. Seriously, I would love to see the day when we DON'T get that reaction. Yes, we exist. Yes, there's more than one of us. I know it's a terrible shock and all, but the boys *really* need to get over it already. It's like there's some kind of memory wipe that occurs between encountering one geekgirl and the next, or something. I'm perfectly willing to be a data point, but not someone's whole damn data set. :P Funny you should mention the “exception” thing. Of all the other females I tend to associate with, most are geeks. And basically ALL of us have been told a zillion times how “rare” we are and what “exceptions” we are.

Seriously, I would love to see the day when we DON’T get that reaction. Yes, we exist. Yes, there’s more than one of us. I know it’s a terrible shock and all, but the boys *really* need to get over it already. It’s like there’s some kind of memory wipe that occurs between encountering one geekgirl and the next, or something. I’m perfectly willing to be a data point, but not someone’s whole damn data set. :P

]]> By: firepile http://www.firepile.com/robin/?p=313&cpage=1#comment-17135 firepile Sun, 20 Apr 2008 23:52:25 +0000 http://www.firepile.com/robin/?p=313#comment-17135 Yeah, it's really baffling to me. This response made me a little queasy: <b>Since men buy most of the movie tickets (either for themselves, or their dates, or their wives), the industry has to cater to the men, or at least to the relationship the men are investing in by buying the tickets. Action, thriller and sci-fi movies will make money by mainly catering to male audiences. Romantic (and to a lesser extent horror) movies tend to cater to couples, and again the man pays. However, all-girl movies (Ya-Ya Sisterhood, ugh) won’t make as much money, because women don’t want to go to the movies alone, and don’t want to pay for the tickets themselves if they can get a guy to pay instead.</b> Maybe the female geeks are "the exception that proves the rule" to these guys? I don't know. I'd like to think this isn't the STANDARD thought on the matter, but given how many responses on xkcd, of all places, are of this particular sickening flavor, it really doesn't give me much hope. Yeah, it’s really baffling to me. This response made me a little queasy:
Since men buy most of the movie tickets (either for themselves, or their dates, or their wives), the industry has to cater to the men, or at least to the relationship the men are investing in by buying the tickets. Action, thriller and sci-fi movies will make money by mainly catering to male audiences. Romantic (and to a lesser extent horror) movies tend to cater to couples, and again the man pays. However, all-girl movies (Ya-Ya Sisterhood, ugh) won’t make as much money, because women don’t want to go to the movies alone, and don’t want to pay for the tickets themselves if they can get a guy to pay instead.

Maybe the female geeks are “the exception that proves the rule” to these guys? I don’t know. I’d like to think this isn’t the STANDARD thought on the matter, but given how many responses on xkcd, of all places, are of this particular sickening flavor, it really doesn’t give me much hope.

]]> By: TChem http://www.firepile.com/robin/?p=313&cpage=1#comment-17133 TChem Sun, 20 Apr 2008 23:42:05 +0000 http://www.firepile.com/robin/?p=313#comment-17133 I found that XKCD entry really interesting too. My experience with male nerds has mostly been that they're more willing to consider, er, "outsider" viewpoints than your standard fit-in-ski. I find them more likely to be openly feminist or doing non-male-normative things. But when I see really strong negative responses like that from people I have something in common with (here, just a webcomic, but one that involves having a lot of shared cultural knowledge), it does make me get a little paranoid about what the men at the anime club or in the lab are *really* thinking when I chat with them, y'know? Or do those guys think that female geeks are an entirely different species, some third gender that neither watch corny romantic comedies nor pee standing up? I found that XKCD entry really interesting too. My experience with male nerds has mostly been that they’re more willing to consider, er, “outsider” viewpoints than your standard fit-in-ski. I find them more likely to be openly feminist or doing non-male-normative things. But when I see really strong negative responses like that from people I have something in common with (here, just a webcomic, but one that involves having a lot of shared cultural knowledge), it does make me get a little paranoid about what the men at the anime club or in the lab are *really* thinking when I chat with them, y’know? Or do those guys think that female geeks are an entirely different species, some third gender that neither watch corny romantic comedies nor pee standing up?

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